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Ancient Pattern Supports Camping's Timeline by John O'Leary

SUMMARY:  The 6023 years which Harold Camping found betwen Creation & Flood match four reset periods for a 365-day calendar with no leap days to re-align itself with the sun & seasons (1 period = 1505.75 years).  It is suggested here that the ancient Egyptians, Mayans, & Aztecs, who favored this leap-less calendar, had become aware of the potential for disasters to be timed with this lengthy interval… and that they were using this calendar with its 15-century reset period as a countdown tool to track the next pending time of realignment.  Scanning history at 1505.75-year intervals since 11013 BC (Creation), we find the Genesis flood at 4990 BC, and evidence of similar drama at two other years fitting this pattern.  These ripples in recorded history, timed to the sun and incorporating Camping's years for Creation & the Flood, suggest that Camping was correct with his dating of these BC events.  Further, they open a new window to the thinking and experience of man in ancient times.

Camping finds key, solves Bible's timeline
Genesis chapters 5 & 11 contain genealogies which for centuries people have struggled with, trying to map out the history of earth back to Adam, and thereby know the year of Creation.  Yet it was not until circa 1960 that a man called Harold Camping discovered the simple trick required for deciphering it all.
Harold Camping
Harold Camping

Two Hebrew words in Genesis form the key:  qara shem ("called his name").  Mr. Camping realized that whenever this phrase appears, it indicates an immediate father-son relationship.  Otherwise, the person who "begat" X, could merely be a forefather of X.  So the true shape of the Genesis family tree emerged, and by adding the right people's ages we could arrive at 'the beginning', which we find occurred in 11013 BC.

Fittingly, Mr. Camping's first career was in construction, for like a professional builder given a blueprint with a few pieces missing, he was able to correctly assemble the Bible's time data, where others before him had failed.

What Camping achieved was a complete sweep of BC history– from Adam in 11013 BC, to Jesus, born in 7 BC.  Listed are all the years for patriarchs, judges, and key events, such as the Exodus in 1447 BC, and the Flood in 4990 BC.  (List of events)

Ultimately, what Camping would come to be remembered for were his predictions for 2011– that Christ would return for the believers in May, and God would destroy the world in October.  These predictions fell short, and Mr. Camping died in late 2013.

7000 Years

The predictions for 2011 relied in part on this being the 7000th anniversary of the Flood.  Was there a flaw in his calculations showing 4990 BC for this important event?  This paper presents evidence that Mr. Camping was actually quite correct in dating the Creation to 11013 BC, and the Flood, 4990 BC.

6023 Years

The key to this evidence is to be found in the term '6023 years'– the interval between Creation and Flood.  This number is no accident; for as those familiar with Camping's writings know, God is in complete control of history's pace, so the number is a deliberate quantity.  They also know, that with God numbers are a way to communicate meaning, derivable from their usage within the Bible.  What Biblical connotations does 6023 have?

     Six  (6 = work, as in six days' work of Creation)
     times One Thousand  (1000 = completeness; all of something)
     plus Twenty Three  (23 = judgment)

So in the global flood of Genesis, 6023 years into the world's history, we can see 'God's complete judgment upon His work of creation.'

Yet the number '6023' by itself is one thing;  The term '6023 years' is another.  Is there something special about this span of 2199855 days?  It turns out, that 6023.000 years is a perfect stopping point, for in this time the equinoxes will advance 4.000 years while using a perpetual 365-day calendar without leap days.

But who uses a perpetual 365-day calendar without leap days?

The quirky 365-day calendar

For a moment, let us think as an Egyptian…or, like Moses:

"Moses was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians…" (Acts 7:22).
Our man Moses knew what the Egyptians knew.  What did the Egyptians know?

The Egyptians (among others) had a 365-day calendar.  In such a calendar, with 365 days and no leap days, there will be a gradual shift in seasons from their associated months.  In this calendar, the first day of spring (the vernal equinox) is seen to 'drift' or 'wander' forward across the months, as the years go by.

Actually, the vernal equinox is not moving at all– It is the too-short calendar that is moving, for lacking Feb. 29s it is forced to repeat itself too early, making the equinox appear to be later by a day about every four years.

Confused?  Try a simple example.  Imagine a man taking full strides on a sidewalk; his feet land on the line with every step.  He is keeping perfect time with the sidewalk.  Now imagine he enters a different batch of sidewalk made by other men in a different year using a slightly shorter measure.

Yet the man does not notice; he keeps walking with the same stride, over these now- shorter stones.

What will happen?  His unchanging stride is regular like the vernal equinox; given shorter stones (shorter calendars) he will land an inch further along on each square (later each year).

A trip around the seasons

Imagine, for a moment, that we stopped adding leap days, and adopted the 365-day calendar of the Egyptians.  In the first year, spring would still begin on March 20; in the fourth year, it would begin a day later on March 21; in the eighth year, on March 22; etc.

The vernal equinox appears to be slowly moving forward in this calendar, which is now slightly shorter, having no leap day.

Eventually this drift will continue, and in 437 years the vernal equinox will be seen on July 4th.  After 700 years it will move into autumn, and progress until it approaches March again, from the other side:  January → February → March.

When the vernal equinox occurs on March 18 (after ~1498 years), and then on March 19 (after ~1502 years), everyone will have plenty of advance notice that this great 1506-year cycle is nearing its re-alignment with where it started.

The vernal equinox would then return to March 20 (or whatever Egyptian name), and 1506 years will have been measured out, as if by the world's largest kitchen timer.


Along with the Egyptians, both the Aztecs and the Mayans also chose to go by 365, and historians seem confused that so many astronomically savvy people apparently couldn't design a calendar that kept pace with the seasons.

But the radical contention of this paper is that the 365-day calendar was chosen precisely because of its inherent, built-in, steady drift– and this 15-century-long trip around the seasons will show us why.

The world's largest kitchen timer

The exact length of this slip cycle (for the vernal equinox to "migrate" a full year) is given by:

     slip cycle, in years = 365 /.2424  (days to gain/gain per year)

                          = 1505.7756 years

By comparison, one fourth of the 6023-year interval (from Creation to the Flood) is:

                 6023 / 4 = 1505.75

Do you see what was happening?  The ancients were keeping track of the same interval upon which the Flood was timed.  If we could find evidence that the ancients saw turmoil at a tempo matching this sun-interval of 1505¾ years, and on a timetable built around the Flood of 4990 BC (this author favors February), then we would know that the ancients were on to something– something big– which historians have entirely missed up to now.

Given evidence of such a pattern, we would have obvious answers to the following ages-old questions, which have eluded historians to this day:

  • How did intelligent peoples ever get the notion that heavenly bodies can foretell things on earth?
  • Why the prevalence in ancient times of the 365-day calendar, with its perpetually slipping seasons?
  • And why the necessity for a new pharaoh to swear that he should never alter it?–
    "[T]he first editor of the journal Nature, astronomer Herbert Lockyer, (1894, pp. 243-248) reported that the 'first law' of the Pharaohs was their pledge, taken on the day of ascension to the throne, to never change the calendar."

So it appears that the 365-day calendar was a doomsday countdown mechanism – add this device to the list of early man's clever inventions.  As it was deeply integrated into daily life via their calendar, they were reminded of the countdown's progress with every passing vernal equinox.  By the proximity of the equinox to March 20 (or whatever the Egyptians called it), they could easilly see where they were in the cycle and gauge the years remaining.  Yet being spread over so long a time, the cooperation of many generations was required… hence the importance of the pharaohs' oath to ensure continuity.

Not far below are listed several signs of a pattern of ~1506-year ripples around the great 4990 BC flood:  times when some less-than all-out catastrophe disrupted society, emphasized man's mortality, and highlighted the all-reaching power of God.


As for the 6023-year-span:  Signs* point to 6023 years, to-the-day. 

  If 6023 years = 4 perfect cycles (if so defined by the Creator)
  → then  1 cycle = 1505.75 years  (1505 years, 9 months)

*The 2199855 days in 6023 years (using our modern calendar, with leap days) can also be divided evenly by 365, into 6027 Egyptian-style years.  This contains exactly 4 years (1460 days) of leap time.  Thus 6023.000 years = 6027.000 Egyptian years.  Also, these 2199855 days are divisible by seven, so (Jan. & Feb.) anniversary dates 6023 years apart have the same day-of-week.  The rare level of perfection found in '6023 years' suggests an exact interval of 6023 years elapsed, giving us matching Creation/Flood dates in Jan. or Feb., 11013 & 4990 BC (such as our proposed Sunday, Feb. 17th in both years).

Useful sidebar No. 1

As a consequence of ignoring the slow build-up of leap time (which we know to be 0.2424 days for every 365) the ancients could determine the true dimension of the year by a simple realization:

If it takes 1506 years for the partial-day to grow into a year (365 days)… Then the size of this partial-day must be 1/1506 of 365 days, or:

     365/1506 ~= 0.24236 days
If anyone could have counted so long, they would have found the golden 6023-year interval, which appears to provide a ratio so perfect (1460 days gained or 4.00 years over the 6023), that it might be considered definitive:
     1460/6023 = 0.24240411754939398970612651502573

     (==> year = 365.24240411754939398970612651502573 )
(According to one online source, the best overall average year-length over the last 20,000 years (sic) is 365.242404 – a virtual tie with our 6023-derived figure above, which figure is about as good as you could hope to find by the simple ratio of two whole numbers of still-reasonable size.)

Seeking a 1505.75-Year Pattern Around the Flood

1.  Aztec 'Suns'  (BC years unknown)

In our first entry we have these odd-sounding accounts given by the Aztecs, detailing ancient cataclysms that capped off eras which they curiously gave the name 'suns'.  (Keep in mind, that it is by watching the sun, that this ~1506-year cycle is revealed.)  While these events lack specific years, their fit with certain details of the suggested narrative is striking.

From Wikipedia:

"The term Five Suns in the context of creation myths, describes the doctrine of the Aztec and other Nahua peoples in which the present world was preceded by four other cycles of creation and destruction.  It is primarily derived from the mythological, cosmological and eschatological beliefs and traditions of earlier cultures from central Mexico and the Mesoamerican region in general.  The Late Postclassic Aztec society inherited many traditions concerning Mesoamerican creation accounts, while however modifying some aspects and supplying novel interpretations of their own."

"In the creation myths which were known to the Aztec and other Nahua peoples of the Late Postclassic era, the central tenet was that there had been four worlds, or 'Suns', before the present universe.  These earlier worlds and their inhabitants had been created, then destroyed by the catastrophic action of leading deity figures.  The present world is the fifth sun…."

"Brief summation." [1506-year spans (in red) are speculation, added by J. O'Leary]

"1. Nahui-Ocelotl (Jaguar Sun) [11013 to 9508 BC ?]
Inhabitants were giants who were devoured by jaguars.
The world was destroyed."

"2. Nahui-Ehécatl (Wind Sun) [9508 to 8002 BC ?]
Inhabitants were transformed into monkeys.
This world was destroyed by hurricanes."

"3. Nahui-Quiahuitl (Rain Sun) [8002 to 6496 BC ?]
Inhabitants were destroyed by rain of fire.
Only birds survived (or inhabitants survived by becoming birds)."

"4. Nahui-Atl (Water Sun) [6496 to 4990 BC ?]
This world was flooded turning the inhabitants into fish.
A couple escaped but were transformed into dogs."

"5. Nahui-Ollin (Earthquake Sun) [4990 BC and After ?]
We are the inhabitants of this world.
This world will be destroyed by earthquakes (or one large earthquake)."

These fantastic-sounding eras caled 'suns'-- the fourth one ending in a flood-- suddenly make a sort of sense, in light of the four actual sun-cycles, which we know culminated in the flood of Genesis in 4990 BC.

Had God been active in the pre-Flood distant past, destroying Man as He did in the Flood, but to a lesser extent?  Indeed, reading in Genesis 9 that God will "no more" destroy, seems to leave open the possibility of prior destructions having been the norm.  If the Bible is silent on this topic, we may never know with certainty.  Yet searching the secular record we do find a few other signs, these with definite years affixed:

2.  3485 BC:  One cycle after Noah

A.  Aztecs & Mayans

November 10, 3485 BC became a calendar base date for the Mayans & Aztecs.  (This falls exactly 1505.75 years after February 10, 4990 BC – possibly the 7-day warning before the Flood of Genesis 7:4– "For yet seven days…".)

"[T]wo members of the survey party, Dr. Sylvanus G. Morley of the Carnegie Middle American Research Program and Dr. Herbert J. Spinden of the Peabody Museum...conceded that an equation derived from three identical ancient calendars– the Aztec of the Valley of Mexico, the Cakchiquel and QuichĂ© of Guatemala– gave November 10, 3485 B.C., as the first day of the Mayan era."

Alma M. Reed, "Peregrina: Love and Death in Mexico", pp. 75, 76 zRoSgwo4qMNpj93iQydJndAyJXU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=HJvbVLyVGcmbgwT6hYSQAQ&ved=0CEAQ 6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=3485%20BC%20egypt&f=false

"Then there is the record of the Aztecan calendar of the Valley of Mexico and the Cakchiquel and Quiche calendars of Guatemala[.]  All of these calendars prove to be identical and an equation is established by which Katun 2 Ahau is found to end on July 26 Julian Calendar 1516 and to be equivalent to 12.8 0.0 0 2 Ahau 3 Pop in the Long Count[.]  According to this the first day of the Mayan Era is November 10 3485 BC"

Herbert Joseph Spinden, "Ancient Civilizations of Mexico and Central America", p. 131,+3485+b.c.&source=bl&ots=s3Vtx U3T6g&sig=46B2JvKXPbZCl9vzSzLLfoAVsl0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=EkHSVPWeJNHIsATntILICg&ved= 0CCAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=November%2010%2C%203485%20b.c.&f=false

The mere mention of Mayans and their calendars may send many running, after the soured 2012 doomsday affair.  Yet remember, it was the Mayan base date of 3114 BC– occurring within "the days of Peleg" (3153-2914 BC)– that led Camping to wonder, if that was their way of marking the foundational year when the continents were divided by God in Genesis 10:25.

Actually, Mr. Camping himself saw value in secular history confirming Biblical study:
"[A]ccord can be seen between the sacred and the secular records by... indirect evidence of the timetable of the civilizations of antiquity."

Harold Camping, "The Biblical Calendar of History" (pamphlet), p.10

(The usual disclaimer, about not inferring endorsement of any website cited, applies in this paper.)

B.  Egypt

The next signs of trouble happening in 3485 BC involve a flood, and some rather intensive preparations:

"'225 A.H. (836 AD) - Papyrus of Abou Hormeis.' (Extract from Ref: 24 with notes by Dr. Sprenger) (Note - Pre Al-Mamun)."

"'It is said, that in a tomb at the monastery of Abou Hormeis, a body was found wrapped round with a cloth, and bearing upon the breast a papyrus, inscribed with antient[sic] Coptic characters, which could not be deciphered until, a monk, from the monastery of Al Kalmun in the Faioum, explained it as follows.' (Note - The story is related by Masoudi, but this relation of it by Al Kodhai is given, because he was a cadi in Egypt; and mentions the persons by whom the tradition had been handed down from former times)."

"'In this manner were the pyramids built. Upon the walls were written the mysteries of science, astronomy, geometry, physics, and much useful knowledge, which any person, who understands our writing, can read. The deluge was to take place when the heart of the lion entered the first minute of the head of cancer, at the declining of the star. The other indications were the sun and moon entering into the first minute of the head of Aries and Saturn, in the first degree and twenty eight minutes of Aries; and Jupiter, in the twenty-ninth degree twenty-eight minutes of Pisces; and Hermes, i.e. Mercury, in the fifth degree and three minutes of the Lion.' (Note- This statement was translated from the Coptic into Arabic 225 A.H., supposed to be four thousand three hundred and twenty-one years after the construction of the pyramids ( = 836AD = 4321 - 836 = 3485 BC) an account of the appearance of the heavens when the waters subsided, is also included)."

"3433 + 52 = 3485 'BC' flood date Arabic completion of Great Pyramid and Flood".

"Also, Shu-Reed Ben Shulak ben termini ben Sal is the Arabic builder of the Great Pyramid and is said to have taken 61 years to build, and 600 to see if it is not destroyed."

'Survival of the floodest'

Does this last remark suggest the pyramids were designed for survivability?  As mere tombs, they are not a proportioinate response to the need.  As repositories of culture, science and knowledge, they begin to make sense.

When completed, the great pyramids reportedly had smooth sides, and a shiny gold capstone– As if designed to withstand an onslought of flood debris, become nearly buried in sediment (imagine Grand Canyons worth of silt), and still gleam from the protruding pinnacle, marking for survivors the spot where their civilization lie preserved.  Imagine the futility of 150 decades (1506 years) of progress, snuffed out after flood waters prevailing a mere 150 days (Genesis 7:24).

Ham brings a book

Apparently, Ham (a son of Noah, who was on the ark) moved into Egypt with his descendants, bringing with him vivid accounts of the flood of 4990 BC:

"...[O]ne of the antient inhabitants of Egypt, who was preserved with Noah in the ark, ... after the flood had subsided, went into Egypt with the sons of Ham, and dying in that country left to his descendants, ... the books of the antient Egyptians....

"The contents of the book were:
We have seen what the stars foretold; we saw the calamity descending from the heavens, and going out from the earth, and we were convinced that the waters would destroy the earth, with the inhabitants and plants.
"We told this to the King Ben Shulak: he built the pyramids fro [sic] the safety of us, and also as tom[b]s for himself and for his household.'"

One glaring detail here that suggests authenticity are the dual sources of waterflow:

"...we saw the calamity descending from the heavens, and going out from the earth..."
Compare this to:
Genesis 7:11(b) ...the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Somehow they knew about the pattern

In the end, whether any expected flood– large or small– actually occurred, is unimportant.  The Egyptians were, like Noah, "moved with fear" to the saving of their civilization's advances from permanent loss.  For them to make such involved preparations, or for the Mayans & Aztecs to reset their calendars to zero exactly one great cycle of the sun after Noah, all serve to show an awareness of time as it was passing according to the Maker's apparent drumbeat.

Does the phrase, "we have seen what the stars foretold", link the sun-cycle to the Flood?  Just how men came to associate ill-tidings with this solar cycle of ~1506 years, pivoting around 4990 BC, we do not know.  Perhaps they had been counting days since time began in 11013 BC, and realized it was four cycles to Noah… or maybe there was really something to those Aztec myths about four previous destructions over four 'suns'.

Whatever the case, the point is these ancient peoples evidently did make the connection, and these their past actions serve to announce now to the world in a bold manner that Camping's BC years are, in fact, ultimately correct.

C.  Mesopotamia

There is archaeological evidence of a great flood in Mesopotamia which "can be dated with a high degree of certainty to about 3500 BCE" (note, this is within 15 years of 3485 BC).  Though it was large it was not global; efforts to prove or disprove it was the flood of the Bible are now moot, for we know from Camping's work in the Bible that Noah's years were 5590-4640 BC, and the flood of Genesis was in 4990 BC.  Yet the Mesopotamian flood ca. 3500 BC seems to be contemporaneous with the above-noted 3485 BC flood involving Egypt– were they one and the same?

Specifically, excavation at (Abraham's) Ur in Iraq found a layer of flood sediment from eight to eleven feet thick. As it was found on top of a layer of debris from the time before writing developed, and underneath a layer from the time when writing was emerging, archeologists were able to assign a relatively accurate date.

Quoted from
The Flood: Mesopotamian Archaeological Evidence by David MacDonald,
Creation Evolution Journal, Vol. 8 No. 2, Spring 1988, pp.14-20 (15)

3.  1034 AD:  Four cycles after Noah

On February 17, 1034 AD (the possible 6023rd anniversary of the Flood; exactly double the time since our possible Creation date), a great earthquake struck Egypt and Palestine, leveling whole towns, destroying part of the Temple wall in Jerusalem and (by some accounts) damaging the mosque at that site, as well as spawning a tsunami.

"On February 17th, 1034 AD, many cities in Syria were destroyed by a violent earthquake, Cedrinos (p. 732D). Also Abul-Farag mentions this event, who says that:
' the year 425 AH there was an earthquake in Egypt and Palestine, and men went forth from (their) houses and remained under the heavens for eight days [i.e., avoided buildings].  And one half of the city of Balash fell down. And the earth swallowed up many villages in Syria with their inhabitants.  Portions of the walls of the temple in Jerusalem fell down, and a minaret of the Arabs in Ascalon and the top of a[ ]minaret in Gaza and half of the city of Ako (Akka).  And the sea retired three parasanges (ten miles!) and men went into it to collect fish, but the waters returned and drowned some of them'."
"Data from Investigation on Seismic Sea Waves:  Events in the Eastern Mediterranean from 1000 to 1500 A.D."

From the recent Indonesian tsunami of December 26, 2004, we have a modern-day example of this exact phenomenon– where the sea at first retreats, luring the curious to investigate; only to meet their sudden doom, when the displaced water returns with surprising speed and force.

Last Thoughts

What Mr. Camping seems to have done is the equivalent of landing a plane in some snow-covered, indistinguishable flat expanse, only to have the snow melt the next day… revealing a landing strip of just the right size (6023 feet), and the plane stopped at the 6023rd foot.

The events and dates at hand seem to line up around 11013 & 4990 BC, confirming Mr. Camping's calculations.

Yet if Harold had skill as a pilot (metaphorically), he had something to guide him– a dusty old map which many have said can't be trusted literally– the Bible.  Unaware of the information presented here, he correctly determined 4990 & 11013 BC by independent means.  Anything new which our observations of ancient Egyptians, Mayans, & Aztecs might add in support of these years, only reassures us of the quality of Camping's work and the overall reliability of his BC timeline of Biblical events.

As for the ancients and their fascination with time and the celestial timekeepers– the sun, moon & stars:  Though this devolved into empty superstition and the non-science of astrology, where man "worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator", perhaps there was a time when they held on to some truth– if indeed they had discovered a clock in the hall, that chimed terribly on the hour with their Maker's wrath.

Chart of 1505.75-year cycles
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Likely irrelevant, but worth noting

The founding of Rome in 753 BC stands one-half of a solar cycle from the era named for Christ– as opposite in phase as these two diametrically opposed entities could be.

1506 / 2 = 753

John O'Leary /